Date: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 7:53 AM
Hansard, commons written answers: 8 Jan 2002 :
Column 400
ZIMBABWE
3. Mr. Michael Moore (Tweeddale, Ettrick
and Lauderdale): What recent discussions he has had with Commonwealth
counterparts on Zimbabwe. [22995]
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11. Mr. Henry Bellingham (North-West
Norfolk): When he next expects to visit Zimbabwe to discuss the Abuja
agreement with the Government; and if he will make a statement. [23003]
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The Secretary of State for Foreign and
Commonwealth Affairs (Mr. Jack Straw): Since the House last discussed
Zimbabwe and despite the Abuja agreement of 6 September, political violence,
including deaths, the occupation of property and the harassment of independent
journalists, has continued. The situation overall in Zimbabwe constitutes a
serious and persistent violation of the Commonwealth's political values and
the rule of law, as enshrined in the 1991 Harare Commonwealth declaration.
That is our view, and it was also the unanimous conclusion of the meeting of
the Commonwealth ministerial action group, which was held in London on 20
December. At that meeting, CMAG decided, because of its deep concern about the
conditions, to place Zimbabwe on its formal agenda and to review the situation
at its next meeting on 30 January.
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Mr. Moore: The Foreign Secretary is correct
to say that, since the Abuja agreement and the Commonwealth ministerial
meeting, intimidation, torture and violence against political opponents and
the press have increased substantially. In those circumstances, will he tell
us exactly what Mugabe has to do before the Commonwealth will introduce
sanctions? Is he confident that the advice that he is giving to the Home
Secretary will ensure that people from Zimbabwe who oppose the regime there
will not be deported back to that country, where they face almost certain
personal physical danger, or possibly death?
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Mr. Straw: Let me deal with the hon.
Gentleman's final specific point before I deal with the general situation. On
the deportation of failed asylum seekers, my right hon. Friend the Home
Secretary exercises the same very great care as I did and officials in the
Home Office did to ensure that, wherever humanly possible, no failed asylum
seeker is deported--even though their claim for asylum has failed--if they are
to be in danger when they are returned. That remains the position. In the case
to which I think the hon. Gentleman refers, the asylum seeker had his
application turned down by officials and by an independent judicial tribunal
and leave to appeal was then refused by a further appeal tribunal. However,
the matter is still being considered by my right hon. Friend.
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The main issue that the hon. Gentleman raises is the position of the
Commonwealth. He will know that it consists of 54 member states of which we
are simply one. One of my key aims has been to ensure that the issue ceases to
be a bilateral one and is made an issue of shared concern by the international
community. However, as far as the position of the United Kingdom is concerned,
if the situation in Zimbabwe continues to deteriorate, Britain will argue for
Zimbabwe's suspension from the Commonwealth at the Commonwealth Heads of
Government meeting in March.
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Mr. Bellingham: The Foreign Secretary said
that opposition politicians had been intimidated, and they have also been
arrested on trumped-up charges. Is he aware that, today, President Mugabe
presented a Bill to Parliament to ban foreign journalists and to ban
independent foreign observers from the country? All that is taking place while
the economy of Zimbabwe is sinking to its knees. If the United States Congress
can introduce measures against despots such as Mugabe and can freeze their
bank accounts and prohibit their foreign travel, surely our Government can do
the same. Surely the Government must now get off the fence and start to get
tougher.
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Mr. Straw: I think that the hon. Gentleman
wrote that supplementary before he heard my remarks. On Zimbabwe, no one could
accuse me of having been on the fence from the very moment I took this job or
since. I was extremely anxious at the Abuja meetings on 6 September to ensure
that the concern about Zimbabwe that had long been felt in this country and on
both sides of the House was shared by other Commonwealth countries and
particularly by African Commonwealth countries. The hon. Gentleman refers to
the condition of the Zimbabwe economy. It is very serious and, in turn, it is
seriously affecting the economies of other south African states.
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The question of sanctions will come up before the European Union at the
meeting of Foreign Ministers on 28 January. It will be before the meeting of
the Commonwealth ministerial action group on 30 January, although decisions
have to be made at the full Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting at the
beginning of March.
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On the United States, I must point out to the hon. Gentleman that the law that
has been passed simply empowers the President to consult other members of the
international community. No decisions to impose sanctions have yet been taken
and are not likely to be taken in the short term by the United States
Administration. However, we continue to keep the question of sanctions under
very close review.
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Mr. Peter Pike (Burnley): I recognise that my right hon. Friend has
referred to issues of great concern and note that the presidential election is
less than three months away. However, can anyone be sure that there will be a
free and fair election for the President of Zimbabwe? If we cannot be sure,
should we not have Commonwealth and other observers in place now to examine
what is taking place there at this time?
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Mr. Straw: No, we cannot be sure that there
will be free and fair elections in Zimbabwe whenever they take place at some
time in, what I imagine, will be the next two or three months. However, we can
be sure that, if the elections are not free and fair, Zimbabwe will be in the
clearest and most flagrant breach of declarations to which it signed up in,
ironically, Harare in 1991, in Millbrook in New Zealand in 1995 and again when
it recommitted itself to both those declarations on 6 September in Abuja, the
capital of Nigeria.
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Mr. Derek Wyatt (Sittingbourne and
Sheppey): Have we done any research into whether President Mugabe has
laundered money either through the City or through Switzerland?
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Mr. Straw: I have seen no evidence to that
effect.
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Mr. Michael Ancram (Devizes): The people of
Zimbabwe must have been mightily reassured last Friday to learn that, far from
resenting the Prime Minister running his own foreign policy, the Foreign
Secretary is enjoying
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"ensuring that we are well developed in
other areas of foreign policy, for example over Zimbabwe."
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On the day that Mugabe and his henchmen are forcing through legislation
destroying the freedom of the press, forbidding independent electoral
scrutiny, cancelling the Abuja commitment to freedom of expression and at a
time when intimidation is institutionalised, murder of opposition members is
commonplace and the democratic process is being dismantled, could the Foreign
Secretary tell us what on earth his well developed policy is actually
achieving?
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Mr. Straw: Again, someone wrote a
supplementary question before hearing the answer.
I repeat that I have been trying to ensure that Zimbabwe, not Britain, is
isolated for the terrible actions that President Mugabe and his henchmen are
taking. That has received the approbation of many Conservative Back Benchers,
as well as Labour Members. The right hon. Gentleman wants us to follow a
policy that is the exact reverse, in which Britain is isolated and we play
into Mugabe's hands so that he can parade himself as the anti-colonialist hero
against the former colonialist power. That would be the worst possible
approach, and it is of course the one that the right hon. Gentleman wishes to
follow.
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Our approach has been to internationalise the issue, while taking a firm lead
within all the international forums in which we speak. That is why the General
Affairs Council--the Foreign Affairs Council--of the European Union is in
train to take firm action on this; why I called a meeting of Commonwealth
Ministers for 20 December; and why I have spelled out to the House that if the
situation in Zimbabwe continues to disintegrate we will argue for Zimbabwe's
suspension from the Commonwealth.
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Mr. Ancram: May I say that I listen carefully to
what the right hon. Gentleman says, but all I hear is him talking about talks
in the future, more promises and more talks after that? We want to hear about
effective action. Does he remember stating on 6 September last year that the
Abuja agreement would be regarded as a positive step forward and that he was
pleased with it? Does he agree that in practice it has not added up to a row a
beans and that the situation in Zimbabwe has deteriorated since then? Why has
he proved so toothless and left it to the Americans to take the lead by
imposing personal sanctions on Mugabe and his henchman, which have been
welcomed by Morgan Tsvangirai? Regardless of what he said a minute ago, why
are we not helping to bring pressure on Zimbabwe, but instead are busy
deporting Zimbabweans, such as Gerald Muketiwa, back to Zimbabwe, where he is
now the victim of Mugabe's violence, as we learned from The Observer on 30
December? When will he stop faffing about and start putting together an
international coalition to bring real pressure to bear on Mugabe and his
henchmen, or is he waiting for the Prime Minister to take that over from him
as well?
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Mr. Straw: The United States has done no
more than bring the powers that are available to its Executive into line with
those that are already available inside the European Union. None of those
powers has been implemented.
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As for Abuja, I made it clear on the very evening that the statement was
signed that it would be judged not by the words on the paper, but by whether
action followed it, especially by the Government of Zimbabwe. It is a matter
of record that action by President Mugabe has not followed the agreement. The
crucial thing about the Abuja settlement is that it provides us with a
template--a yardstick--against which to judge the action or inaction of the
Government of Zimbabwe. The right hon. Gentleman talks about putting an
international coalition together; that is exactly what I have done. I note
that whenever he is asked what else he would do or what he would do
differently, he has no answer.